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Oldarmourer 24th Apr 2020, 3:09 PM edit delete reply
posted this just seconds before the new page appeared so pardon me for repeating it...

methinks we're about to see the end of two parties with the best of each going on to make the one that's going to tell the real story...
Everything so far has just been the prologue...stuff's going to get real now :)
Oldarmourer 24th Apr 2020, 3:12 PM edit delete reply
For said party, I'm thinking Colleen, Ozzi, I hope Randulf makes it, maybe Marigold(or maybe not)
and a spellcaster... and possibly another fighter, both to be named later.
Andrew_C 24th Apr 2020, 4:00 PM edit delete reply
Andrew_C
I think this sequence is certainly the beginning of the end of this party. However I don't think Marigold will leave when Ozzi and Ox do, she seems to have something against Colleen and IMO she is too emotionally invested in the Elf to leave him easily. However, we will see.
Guest 24th Apr 2020, 4:18 PM edit delete reply
It was actually Sera the Elf that disliked Colleen, Marigold wanted Colleen over Alexus the alchemist:

Page 4-21, http://www.marblegate.webcomic.ws/comics/149/

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I would guess that Marigold would leave Seras. She is too competent and capable, and I imagine that she might be doing OK financially, possibly being able to depend on her family, and her equipment and clothes are in good shape, unlike for example Ozzy who has patches on his clothes (however, he might be able to mend his own clothes and might not care too much about it as long as they are still functional and not in too bad a shape).
David Argall 25th Apr 2020, 2:33 AM edit delete reply
It's been 7 chapters now, so it is getting rather late for the parties to just merge. Rather each character may get a personal page/chapter about their personal problems or kinks. After that, they may slip off the stage, lethally or otherwise. Marigold might well have some space dealing with her chest problem, which could be accepting it, or being cured by Colleen. or ...
Guest 24th Apr 2020, 4:33 PM edit delete reply
Ozzy is bending over for Seras and Alexus, which is not right at all. On the other hand, he is in the minority here, he seems to really wants things to work out (unlike some of the others, he does not seem to have wealthy relatives or at least well-off relatives to fall back on), and there is no guarantee that he will easily find another decent group to delve with, apart from Ox. And they have had several successes at this point in time (especially reg. the shark ogre), including all of them returning alive each time :) .

He does have his reliable and genuine buddy Ox to rely on, and Ox mentioned briefly that he "didn't think the group is working" in page 4-23: http://www.marblegate.webcomic.ws/comics/151/ .

But, then again, bending over is not guaranteed to keep the group stable and together, and might make things worse. Best would likely be to do what is right without risking himself and still make things work out, though that is easier said (or written) than figured out and done.

Of course, there are not always good or at least workable solutions to problems, but sometimes there are even when they are not obvious. But definitely not an easy situation.
chris-tar 24th Apr 2020, 4:39 PM edit delete reply
chris-tar
This is like a soap opera for nerdy guys into D&D like me. Lol Only, I am not smart enough to follow it. Ha! Well, I guess I just can't remember all the past pages, or else all this would make much more sense to me... Sigh. I guess I need to re-read your entire comic (which by the way would probably be a lot of fun).
What I really want to know, is just what the hell that elf did to that chef!?! He sabotaged his kitchen roof!?! That is truly a crime! Because I love delicious foods and the chef's that create them!
Guest 24th Apr 2020, 4:55 PM edit delete reply
"What I really want to know, is just what the hell that elf did to that chef!?! He sabotaged his kitchen roof!?! That is truly a crime! Because I love delicious foods and the chef's that create them!"

I can only agree.

Damn, I could really go for some good food right now...
Oldarmourer 25th Apr 2020, 4:04 AM edit delete reply
Can't help but wonder if Randulf was the Dwarf in question ;)
chris-tar 24th Apr 2020, 4:42 PM edit delete reply
chris-tar
I can't help but notice that huge disclaimer you have at the bottom of your comic now. I guess you have had other companies contact you about the content of your comic? If so, I would consider that a huge compliment because your work is obviously highly original, and they are probably just jealous of your success and great ideas and artwork.
someone 27th Apr 2020, 11:37 PM edit delete reply
Yeah, that intrigued me a few pages ago so I just did a google search on "Marblegate" and found that there's a "Marblegate Asset Management LLC". Nobody wants to get on the bad side of a hedge fund's legal department.
chris-tar 28th Apr 2020, 12:35 AM edit delete reply
chris-tar
Holy Smokes. Maybe it is time to rename this comic then... perhaps "Granite Gate", or "Marble Deep" etc. LOL
someone 29th Apr 2020, 7:21 PM edit delete reply
Garble Mate Pungeon
Thracecius 24th Apr 2020, 5:12 PM edit delete reply
Thracecius
My rule of thumb: if anyone calls you a "little bitch" for your opinion on the personal situation of another person that you belive is being treated unfairly by them, they are the problem, not you. Case in point, Marigold seems to go to obvious lengths to disguise her condition, which indicates that she is not comfortable with it being public knowledge. The fact that Seras, who is presumably intimately involved with her, is apparently oblivious to her discomfort, just proves that his callous and socially retarded nature is an unfit match for her. Can he change? Possibly, but it seems extremely unlikely given his ego and insecurities.

I like Oldarmourer's party suggestion of Colleen, Randulf, Ozzi, Ox, Marigold and possibly another magic user. I don't know if Randulf and Marigold would get along, personality-wise, but I think if she's as compentant a teammate as she appears to be, that would be a good foundation for this selection of adventurers to really clear out multiple levels of the dungeon together. The biggest downside I can think of is Randulf not wanting to have such a large party of, by his view, "inexperienced kids" joining him.

Time for a new party! :D
Blackwing 24th Apr 2020, 10:12 PM edit delete reply
I agree. If anyone talked to me like that, well, let's just say we wouldn't be seeing one another for much longer.

Unless of course that person was my boss, in which case my response would be, "yes, master, I'm a good little bitch. Can I have money now?"

Maybe that's what Ozzie's problem is. It seems like he comes from a lower-class background (those who become thieves are rarely wealthy or high-status to begin with). When you're stuck at the bottom of the societal totem pole for long enough, eventually you become conditioned to accept abusive relationships, even when it isn't necessary, because you've learned that is how you get by.

Will Sera change? Possibly. I hope so, but it probably won't happen for a long time, perhaps long after this story is over. I imagine elves and other long-lived races can become rather set in their ways.

Personally, I have more hope of Ozzie getting his act together, and I expect he will before long. Maybe Colleen and Randulf can help him with that, and he can help them with their own personality flaws.
Guest 24th Apr 2020, 10:33 PM edit delete reply
"Unless of course that person was my boss, in which case my response would be, "yes, master, I'm a good little bitch. Can I have money now?""

I would not accept that either at all, but bills need to be paid, and money can not be taken for granted.
Oldarmourer 25th Apr 2020, 4:02 AM edit delete reply
I've sat in each of the chairs around that table at different points in my life...
I imagine most people reading here have too.
We were all young 'trying to impress our peers/elders/youngers at one time or maybe still are...
Elves apparently, can stay that way for a loonnngggg time ;)
Ox and Randulf in the same party would be a comedy in the making though...
someone 27th Apr 2020, 11:51 PM edit delete reply
Remember that five is the group size limit. That's why Colleen couldn't join the Losers' Group in the first place. If you're swapping in Elf and Alchemist for our heroes, there's no room for another magic user.

The title banner makes me think we're gonna have a team of Colleen, Randulf, and Ozzi. No Ox, no Marigold, no anyone else.
Guest 28th Apr 2020, 6:31 AM edit delete reply
> Losers' Group

Hey, they did have a fair amount of success in a number of regards, such as all returning alive from multiple excursions into the dungeon. Including surviving the shark ogre :).
Oldarmourer 28th Apr 2020, 7:52 PM edit delete reply
Oldarmourer
Five is the 'transporter limit'
You can take as many as you want down the stairs

the stair's the limit

I'm surprised someone hasn't put together an army...
I wonder if a party could go down by foot then use more than one scroll to send five at a time back up ?
The scrolls just get you back to where in the dungeon you left from, or am I reading it wrong ?
Guest 29th Apr 2020, 1:04 PM edit delete reply
> I'm surprised someone hasn't put together an army...

I recall others suggesting and discussing that. I think there were some challenges with that; including the way the dungeon works reg. going up and down. Rocktopus expanded on the way the dungeon works reg. going up and down in one post, though I don't remember which page it was on. As I recall, if you go up a floor, and wait a few minutes, and then go down again, you end up on a different floor. The dungeon was almost a bit "sentient" reg. that; I wonder whether it/others might take action if one attempts to send an army down there. That said, there are also plot, setting and story concerns. A randomizing dungeon is a strange and amazing creation. Story-wise, I would guess that the dungeon makes the most sense as a form of "mouse trap"; though, which kind of "mice" it is luring and for what reasons or purposes, is another question... we did get a brief look at certain denizens of the dungeon in one page or two some chapters back.

Using multiple scrolls sound like a smart idea; I wonder if some groups are considering doing that. It would increase the costs reg. usage of scrolls, and make it take longer to enter and exit the dungeon, but might still make a lot of sense. Teleportation was as I recall a new thing to the current appearance of the dungeon, and the usage of it might evolve over time (some groups might already be using that technique).

Reg. getting back to the dungeon using scrolls, I think you are reading it right.
padanew 25th Apr 2020, 2:53 AM edit delete reply
padanew
Respect is a word that this party need to learn. You have to respect the people in your group or else you run the risk of not having a group at all.

Or guess what happened when the knight came into the bar and hear what was going on.

Also, I ran out of ale too. Nuts!
Bookeater_otaku 25th Apr 2020, 12:52 PM edit delete reply
Ugh, that elf and alchemist... can't stand them more and more.

Oh well, alcohol can make most distasteful meeting 'beerable'.
Nomad 25th Apr 2020, 6:13 PM edit delete reply
I wonder if it'll still be Ozzi being a bitch when he gets tired and caves in the elfs face.
Guest 28th Apr 2020, 7:21 AM edit delete reply
He doesn't have the violence for it, and Ox has a good head on his shoulders to know the elf is at least useful, so he won't rip a few choice limbs off either. I think Marigold scorning him will be a bigger hit than a physical one, myself (even if she pops him one for the "secret")
Lurker 29th Apr 2020, 9:45 PM edit delete reply
Yep yep, the way this is going, in a couple more chapters (or less) this party is gonna be over, and (probably?) Ozzy will finally team up with Randulf and Colleen.

But something tells me that this drama isn't gonna be over so easily... I can't imagine the author would spend so much time developing these characters only to throw them away after a few chapters; the question is, what roles will they play in the future?

tl;dr: excellent plot development. ;-)
Oldarmourer 1st May 2020, 2:41 AM edit delete reply
IF Colleen will let him in...she may be the epitome of niceness but she wasn't happy when she arrived at the gate only to find out he didn't hold her place in the party he's in and that might be hard for her to get over.
Thracecius 1st May 2020, 3:01 PM edit delete reply
Thracecius
Honestly, I don't think it's likely that Colleen will hold a grudge against Ozzi, she just doesn't seem to be that kind of person, considering she hasn't mentioned or reflected on it since. She's purpose driven to earn money to send home as well, so harboring ill will is a distraction from her goals.

That being said, I wouldn't put it past her to give him a little grief when he does ask to join. ;)